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Level 1 Failed
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Fri 06 Apr 2012 03:13 PM
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Bel
Student
7 posts
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Just failed level 1 got 82% pass is 85%!!!
Ironically most of the errors were calculations.
Is there any way of printing this paper off so i can see where i went wrong?
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Sat 07 Apr 2012 09:23 AM
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Spark
Associate CB.Cert
96 posts
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Hi Bel,
I'm sorry to hear about your fail.
I passed my level one at the beginning on March with 88%, this annoyed me as I got 99% in my mock exam. I too have been wanting to find out where I went wrong but so far have been unable too.
I can only suggest you do more mocks and exercises (I've found Frank Wood's Business Accounting Book very useful).
Good luck in your resit, let me know how you get on. Sue
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Sat 07 Apr 2012 01:11 PM
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bill
Associate CB.Cert
Practice Licence
16 posts
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Hi Bel,
I also failed Manual 1 mostly silly mistakes. I have just passed with 87% and note that some of my errors were VAT calcs not the working but the pennies. If you want to print out your results go to the results page right click on the mouse click print. When your printer comes up click on print current page, this will then print out the results. Unfortunately you cant print the question as well.
regards and good luck for the future.
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Sun 08 Apr 2012 07:53 AM
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Bel
Student
7 posts
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I printed out the results sheet and all it gives me as you rightly say is the answers. If i cant see the questions to see whether it was a complete calculation error or whether i panicked and just mis read the question (ie net instead of gross!!) how am i supposed to learn from it????
The fact that it was 6 questions makes me wonder!!!
I dont normally make calculation errors.
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Sun 08 Apr 2012 08:16 AM
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Kathryn Mac
Student
13 posts
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Hi Bel
Sorry to hear about your results, did you perhaps use the wrong VAT rate. When I sat my test I started calculating the VAT at 17.5% because I was just so use to it with all my practice material and course material using the 17.5% rate I forgot for a minute that I should be using 20%. Luckily I remembered after the first question but it would perhaps explain why your calculations were wrong.
Kathryn
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Sun 08 Apr 2012 08:48 AM
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Jo G
Member CB.Dip
Practice Licence
127 posts
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Belsaid:
“I printed out the results sheet and all it gives me as you rightly say is the answers. If i cant see the questions to see whether it was a complete calculation error or whether i panicked and just mis read the question (ie net instead of gross!!) how am i supposed to learn from it????
The fact that it was 6 questions makes me wonder!!!
I dont normally make calculation errors.”
Hi Bel,
The only other thing you can do us pay £25 to request feedback from the ICB on your exam paper. If you go to
http://www.bookkeepers.org.uk/Examinations/Examination%20Process%20in%20Detail it will tell you the process.
Good luck!
Jo
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Thu 12 Apr 2012 10:41 AM
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D.S
No Membership
11 posts
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I have also failed level 1 i got 81%.
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Thu 26 Apr 2012 03:48 PM
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Mandy S
No Membership
32 posts
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i have also failed  I did print my report but frustrated because some are figures, it clearly states round down when you start exam and I have - I can only assume I should have rounded up or how are my figures wrong....
So frustrated I got 91% in my mock and now to fail........ and miserably might I add.
Okay couple of things i got around wrong way but all calcs were wrong.............
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Mandy S
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Fri 27 Apr 2012 05:43 AM
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Questimate
Student
63 posts
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Mandy Ssaid:
“i have also failed I did print my report but frustrated because some are figures, it clearly states round down when you start exam and I have - I can only assume I should have rounded up or how are my figures wrong....
So frustrated I got 91% in my mock and now to fail........ and miserably might I add.
Okay couple of things i got around wrong way but all calcs were wrong.............”
Hi,
That's a shame. I can understand your frustration too, esp when you did so well in the mock, which is supposed to be a true reflection of what the exam is like (although different questions, obviously). Did you notice any areas in the real exam that were different to the mock that might account for this discrepancy?
It's funny you should mention that rounding down business. During my short time as a student I've noticed this rule seems to be somewhat erroneous, in that when I've been working through some of the self-tests a couple of the answers have not always followed this guideline themselves, making my own answer 'wrong'. I've decided not to let it confuse me and just assumed it/they were typos. If I come across it too often though I'll be worried.
I seem to remember reading a similar post on here about errors in rounding down and somebody advised them to contact the ICB, who will adjust exam marks accordingly if they think it's warranted (or have I misunderstood)? So if this is where you think you lost marks it may be worth contacting them?
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Fri 27 Apr 2012 11:48 AM
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Little Katie
No Membership
1 post
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Belsaid:
“Just failed level 1 got 82% pass is 85%!!!
Ironically most of the errors were calculations.
Is there any way of printing this paper off so i can see where i went wrong?”
Hello there I didn't fail but the reason I want to remark on this subject is NOT to rub salt in wounds but more because I find there is a certain amount of controversy and unfairness with the exam. I was marked down on the VAT figure and vaguely recall a part before starting the exam outlining not to round down, though I did not pay attention to this as I wrongly didn't find it relevant. Why would you not round down if you were to do book-keeping in a realistic setting? Your client or Inland Revnue wouldn't say just for this client don't round down!
In respect of identifying which t-account a certain transaction should be recorded in, I notice the wording of the questions can be a little misleading, such that they can used a word personal computer that would indicate assets, yet if you read the question properly it says uses personal computer and in fact this transaction would then be drawings and not assets. I pondered over this but the system went down from ICB end and then I forgot to return to this question once they sorted it quite a while later and of course lost vital concetration. Because of such of course I didn't correct my answer, so lost a point there, as well as points regarding the rounding down. I would question the realism and fairness in the nature of the questions, which really are borderline trickery but that is only a matter of opinion I suppose.
I find it no wonder people fail, as a lot of the questions throw you off balance and then this can insert a lot of doubt in your abilities when you fail, yet if you ask of my opinion it is not ability at stake here it is the exam questioning I would say, as mentioned above.
I would bear this in mind if you intend to look into why you failed exactly. I would also challenge paying the £25 if you base it on the unfairness rather than the fact you failed, it is more why you failed that should be under scrutiny here.
Best of luck to all who failed and hope my comments help.
Regards
Katie
Edited at 27 Apr 2012 11:49 AM GMT
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Fri 27 Apr 2012 12:12 PM
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Mandy S
No Membership
32 posts
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hi
Yes you can print off your report you get the option at end of exam.
It tells you which areas you went wrong and what your answers were (but not the questions)
Will give you some guideline though.
Good luck with re-sit - im hoping to pass this time round
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Mandy S
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Fri 27 Apr 2012 02:05 PM
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Mandy S
No Membership
32 posts
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Funny you should say that about answers not being correct and following guidelines I have too found that.... what I find confusing too, my tutur is using 17.5% vat but exams of course are 20% which meant i had to go back and change all after realising.....
Guestimatesaid:
“Mandy Ssaid:
“i have also failed I did print my report but frustrated because some are figures, it clearly states round down when you start exam and I have - I can only assume I should have rounded up or how are my figures wrong....
So frustrated I got 91% in my mock and now to fail........ and miserably might I add.
Okay couple of things i got around wrong way but all calcs were wrong.............”
Hi,
That's a shame. I can understand your frustration too, esp when you did so well in the mock, which is supposed to be a true reflection of what the exam is like (although different questions, obviously). Did you notice any areas in the real exam that were different to the mock that might account for this discrepancy?
It's funny you should mention that rounding down business. During my short time as a student I've noticed this rule seems to be somewhat erroneous, in that when I've been working through some of the self-tests a couple of the answers have not always followed this guideline themselves, making my own answer 'wrong'. I've decided not to let it confuse me and just assumed it/they were typos. If I come across it too often though I'll be worried.
I seem to remember reading a similar post on here about errors in rounding down and somebody advised them to contact the ICB, who will adjust exam marks accordingly if they think it's warranted (or have I misunderstood)? So if this is where you think you lost marks it may be worth contacting them?”
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Mandy S
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Fri 27 Apr 2012 02:10 PM
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Mandy S
No Membership
32 posts
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Guestimatesaid:
“Mandy Ssaid:
“i have also failed I did print my report but frustrated because some are figures, it clearly states round down when you start exam and I have - I can only assume I should have rounded up or how are my figures wrong....
So frustrated I got 91% in my mock and now to fail........ and miserably might I add.
Okay couple of things i got around wrong way but all calcs were wrong.............”
Hi,
That's a shame. I can understand your frustration too, esp when you did so well in the mock, which is supposed to be a true reflection of what the exam is like (although different questions, obviously). Did you notice any areas in the real exam that were different to the mock that might account for this discrepancy?
It's funny you should mention that rounding down business. During my short time as a student I've noticed this rule seems to be somewhat erroneous, in that when I've been working through some of the self-tests a couple of the answers have not always followed this guideline themselves, making my own answer 'wrong'. I've decided not to let it confuse me and just assumed it/they were typos. If I come across it too often though I'll be worried.
I seem to remember reading a similar post on here about errors in rounding down and somebody advised them to contact the ICB, who will adjust exam marks accordingly if they think it's warranted (or have I misunderstood)? So if this is where you think you lost marks it may be worth contacting them?”
thanks for your message, i round up its wrong i round down its wrong - cant win, think the exam board should allow a penny each way personally.
I myself have also noted with my tutor that some figures do not match and likewise guidelines not followed but figured rather than correct them to keep quiet
find it annoying too that they are using 17.5% vat when its 20% as is the exam..........
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Mandy S
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Fri 27 Apr 2012 06:36 PM
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Questimate
Student
63 posts
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Mandy Ssaid:
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thanks for your message, i round up its wrong i round down its wrong - cant win, think the exam board should allow a penny each way personally.
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Maybe they will. Maybe that's why they are prepared to remark papers in such instances.
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